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umi_mikazuki ([personal profile] umi_mikazuki) wrote2011-03-14 07:02 pm

I can't. I just can't.



This is... I have no words for how disgusting this girl is. Serious, or troll, it is COMPLETELY UNCALLED FOR.

[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to watch this because I just know this is going to make me immensely angry. But in what I'm sure is related, what really pisses me the hell off is this prevalent idea of "God sent this natural disaster to punish people!"

NO, NO, NO HE DID NOT. "But it's in the Bible!" NO, ACTUALLY, IT IS NOT. In all of the stories where God causes Natural Disaster A to destroy City B, the following happens:
- God is unhappy with City B.
- God tells someone (a prophet, judge, chosen person, etc.) that he is going to destroy City B at this time for this reason, unless City B repents of what it has done wrong.
- Prophet or judge goes to the town and tells them all this. He tells them that city will be destroyed in a certain way, at a certain time, for a certain reason, unless people of the town change their ways.
- If they do not change their ways (Sodom & Gomorrah), disaster happens. If they DO change their ways (Ninevah), disaster is averted, happy times all around.

The point is, there is NO BIBLICAL BASIS for God just causing natural disasters at some random point because he doesn't like a particular city. Now, if some person were to go to a city today and say "God is going to mess up this town on this day/time unless you change this," and then it happened exactly that way, THEN I would be inclined to believe it was something more. But it hasn't, and I don't think it ever will, so any claims that God causes this stuff is buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshiiiiiiiit.

Sorry for being long-winded, it just really really pisses me off when people do this. 8|

[identity profile] bouncy-erbear.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
You know...even I forgot that aspect of the stories. :o Nice point.

[identity profile] artoni.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
I WAS JUST THINKING THIS THE OTHER DAY. 99% of the stories have actual Warning with it at some point, right? I leave the 1 there because knowing my memory... :[

That said, I'm sure Japan has crazy people like we do, re; REPENT and all that stuff. So...:/

[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I believe that was usually the point of them. There may have been one without a warning, Bible is full of small stories that I can't remember, but as far as I can remember (Noah and the Ark, Sodom and Gomorrah, Ninevah and the like) there was always a warning and prophet involved.

[identity profile] dontbepanic.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't God also say that he wouldn't make those kind of disasters again? I seem to recall a story in which God personally creates a huge disaster and then afterward ends up saying "Hm, maybe I should seek anger management..." and promises never to personally cause them again.

Of course, there's a lot of loopholes later, with devastating blessed items and cataclysmic irony to those who don't listen to the prophets. I'm pretty sure he never really started the whole 'angry god' business ever again though.

[identity profile] lynxgriffin.livejournal.com 2011-03-15 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that was in the Noah story back in Genesis...specifically, "I won't destroy the world this way again. I made this double rainbow all across the sky to prove it!"

And yes, most of the following 'angry god' stuff in the Old Testament is not so much God having beef with humanity in general, as it is God having beef specifically with Israel, since He made a pact with them early on in their history (hence the whole Ark of the Covenant.) If you look at most of the stories there, it is really not God going "I find you all unworthy and smite you all!" to humanity, as it is "Hey, you promised me you'd do this for me and you're not holding up your end of the deal!" to Israel.